8 hænder fra dagens PLO10-session fra noob

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Kære alle - jeg er plo noob, men efter at have set nogle Jnandez videoer fik jeg lyst til at spille lidt plo. Jeg er ikke helt noob, men jeg har aldrig sat mig grundigt ind i fundamentals, så måske der er nogle virkelig store leaks i nedenstående hænder :)


1.

PokerStars Zoom Hand #181040779283: Omaha Pot Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2018/01/15 19:14:37 CET [2018/01/15 13:14:37 ET]
Table 'Eulalia' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: bloche97 ($20.94 in chips)
Seat 2: milfan24 ($4.91 in chips)
Seat 3: teikmaimani ($26.40 in chips)
Seat 4: bogdan_wyz ($19.21 in chips)
Seat 5: arena757 ($13.57 in chips)
Seat 6: Alcmaria ($11.79 in chips)
milfan24: posts small blind $0.05
teikmaimani: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bloche97 [6 K 7 9]

bogdan_wyz: folds
arena757: calls $0.10
Alcmaria: folds
bloche97: raises $0.35 to $0.45
milfan24: folds
teikmaimani: calls $0.35
arena757: calls $0.35
*** FLOP *** [5 9 9]
teikmaimani: checks
arena757: checks
bloche97: bets $1
teikmaimani: raises $1.50 to $2.50
arena757: folds
bloche97: calls $1.50 <---------- WP? (ingen raise?)
*** TURN *** [5c 9d 9h] [Q]
teikmaimani: checks
bloche97: checks
*** RIVER *** [5c 9d 9h Qs] [Q]
teikmaimani: checks
bloche97: bets $3 <---------- WP? (for tyndt?)
teikmaimani: calls $3
*** SHOW DOWN ***
bloche97: shows [6c Ks 7h 9s] (three of a kind, Nines)
teikmaimani: shows [8d 5h Jh 9c] (a full house, Nines full of Fives)
teikmaimani collected $11.87 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $12.40 | Rake $0.53
Board [5c 9d 9h Qs Qh]
Seat 1: bloche97 (button) showed [6c Ks 7h 9s] and lost with three of a kind, Nines
Seat 2: milfan24 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: teikmaimani (big blind) showed [8d 5h Jh 9c] and won ($11.87) with a full house, Nines full of Fives
Seat 4: bogdan_wyz folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: arena757 folded on the Flop
Seat 6: Alcmaria folded before Flop (didn't bet)


2.
PokerStars Zoom Hand #181041481036: Omaha Pot Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2018/01/15 19:27:41 CET [2018/01/15 13:27:41 ET]
Table 'Eulalia' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Juruburbuls ($9.54 in chips)
Seat 2: bloche97 ($13.54 in chips)
Seat 3: JoeSwede ($12.15 in chips)
Seat 4: suppa_fly54 ($13.18 in chips)
Seat 5: angrod69 ($30.08 in chips)
Seat 6: confrence ($20.51 in chips)
bloche97: posts small blind $0.05
JoeSwede: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bloche97 [9 K 7 K]

suppa_fly54: folds
angrod69: raises $0.20 to $0.30
confrence: raises $0.75 to $1.05
Juruburbuls: folds
bloche97: calls $1
JoeSwede: folds
angrod69: raises $3.25 to $4.30
confrence: raises $9.75 to $14.05
bloche97: folds <---------- WP?
angrod69: raises $16.03 to $30.08 and is all-in
confrence: calls $6.46 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($9.57) returned to angrod69
*** FLOP *** [Q 3 J]

*** TURN *** [Qc 3d Js] [2]

*** RIVER *** [Qc 3d Js 2h] [Q]

*** SHOW DOWN ***
angrod69: shows [Ah 8c 6c Ad] (two pair, Aces and Queens)
confrence: shows [7c 9c 5s 9s] (two pair, Queens and Nines)
angrod69 collected $40.67 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $42.17 | Rake $1.50
Board [Qc 3d Js 2h Qh]
Seat 1: Juruburbuls (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: bloche97 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: JoeSwede (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: suppa_fly54 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: angrod69 showed [Ah 8c 6c Ad] and won ($40.67) with two pair, Aces and Queens
Seat 6: confrence showed [7c 9c 5s 9s] and lost with two pair, Queens and Nines


3.
PokerStars Zoom Hand #181041505257: Omaha Pot Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2018/01/15 19:28:08 CET [2018/01/15 13:28:08 ET]
Table 'Eulalia' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: bloche97 ($12.49 in chips)
Seat 2: chaco56as ($9.85 in chips)
Seat 3: OMGLIM ($10.59 in chips)
Seat 4: MAAA94 ($5.97 in chips)
Seat 5: lombata ($8.51 in chips)
Seat 6: mazicisgod ($11.96 in chips)
chaco56as: posts small blind $0.05
OMGLIM: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bloche97 [K K Q 6]

MAAA94: folds
lombata: folds
mazicisgod: folds
bloche97: raises $0.25 to $0.35
chaco56as: folds
OMGLIM: calls $0.25
*** FLOP *** [6 Q J]

OMGLIM: checks
bloche97: bets $0.72
OMGLIM: raises $2.16 to $2.88
bloche97: raises $6.48 to $9.36 <---------- WP?
OMGLIM: raises $0.88 to $10.24 and is all-in
bloche97: calls $0.88
*** TURN *** [6h Qd Jd] [4]

*** RIVER *** [6h Qd Jd 4c] [4]

*** SHOW DOWN ***
OMGLIM: shows [Ks As Jh Qh] (two pair, Queens and Jacks)
bloche97: shows [Kc Kd Qc 6d] (a flush, King high)
bloche97 collected $20.33 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $21.23 | Rake $0.90
Board [6h Qd Jd 4c 4d]
Seat 1: bloche97 (button) showed [Kc Kd Qc 6d] and won ($20.33) with a flush, King high
Seat 2: chaco56as (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: OMGLIM (big blind) showed [Ks As Jh Qh] and lost with two pair, Queens and Jacks
Seat 4: MAAA94 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: lombata folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: mazicisgod folded before Flop (didn't bet)


4.
PokerStars Zoom Hand #181042322426: Omaha Pot Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2018/01/15 19:43:12 CET [2018/01/15 13:43:12 ET]
Table 'Eulalia' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: AceA1962 ($8.53 in chips)
Seat 2: MamutatumaM ($14.76 in chips)
Seat 3: Ektoras_d ($11.63 in chips)
Seat 4: bloche97 ($23.87 in chips)
Seat 5: purexpure ($11.80 in chips)
Seat 6: pocketEmko ($6.57 in chips)
MamutatumaM: posts small blind $0.05
Ektoras_d: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bloche97 [K Q T 8]

bloche97: raises $0.25 to $0.35
purexpure: folds
pocketEmko: folds
AceA1962: folds
MamutatumaM: calls $0.30
Ektoras_d: calls $0.25
*** FLOP *** [4 9 J]

MamutatumaM: checks
Ektoras_d: checks
bloche97: bets $0.60
MamutatumaM: calls $0.60
Ektoras_d: folds
*** TURN *** [4h 9s Jd] [K]

MamutatumaM: bets $1.70
bloche97: calls $1.70 <---------- WP? (bør jeg raise?)
*** RIVER *** [4h 9s Jd Kc] [2]

MamutatumaM: bets $4.10
bloche97: raises $13.61 to $17.71
MamutatumaM: folds
Uncalled bet ($13.61) returned to bloche97
bloche97 collected $13.26 from pot
bloche97: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $13.85 | Rake $0.59
Board [4h 9s Jd Kc 2h]
Seat 1: AceA1962 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: MamutatumaM (small blind) folded on the River
Seat 3: Ektoras_d (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: bloche97 collected ($13.26)
Seat 5: purexpure folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: pocketEmko folded before Flop (didn't bet)


5.
PokerStars Zoom Hand #181041999288: Omaha Pot Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2018/01/15 19:37:16 CET [2018/01/15 13:37:16 ET]
Table 'Eulalia' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Spielgscheit ($12.60 in chips)
Seat 2: Madrilenio88 ($9.15 in chips)
Seat 3: kingh0lli ($11.16 in chips)
Seat 4: bloche97 ($35.39 in chips)
Seat 5: cruszt666 ($10 in chips)
Seat 6: just_blaze11 ($13.11 in chips)
Madrilenio88: posts small blind $0.05
kingh0lli: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bloche97 [2 A A K]

bloche97: raises $0.25 to $0.35
cruszt666: folds
just_blaze11: raises $0.85 to $1.20
Spielgscheit: calls $1.20
Madrilenio88: folds
kingh0lli: folds
bloche97: raises $3.75 to $4.95
just_blaze11: calls $3.75
Spielgscheit: calls $3.75
*** FLOP *** [8 8 6]

bloche97: bets $14.36 <---------- WP? (er det et ch/fold?)
just_blaze11: calls $8.16 and is all-in
Spielgscheit: calls $7.65 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($6.20) returned to bloche97
*** TURN *** [8c 8h 6h] [T]

*** RIVER *** [8c 8h 6h Th] [Q]

*** SHOW DOWN ***
bloche97: shows [2d As Ac Kd] (two pair, Aces and Eights)
just_blaze11: shows [6c 7h 9h 8s] (a straight flush, Six to Ten)
just_blaze11 collected $1.02 from side pot
Spielgscheit: shows [Td Kh Ad Jh] (a flush, King high)
just_blaze11 collected $36.45 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $38.97 Main pot $36.45. Side pot $1.02. | Rake $1.50
Board [8c 8h 6h Th Qs]
Seat 1: Spielgscheit (button) showed [Td Kh Ad Jh] and lost with a flush, King high
Seat 2: Madrilenio88 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: kingh0lli (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: bloche97 showed [2d As Ac Kd] and lost with two pair, Aces and Eights
Seat 5: cruszt666 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: just_blaze11 showed [6c 7h 9h 8s] and won ($37.47) with a straight flush, Six to Ten


6.
PokerStars Zoom Hand #181042587227: Omaha Pot Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2018/01/15 19:48:03 CET [2018/01/15 13:48:03 ET]
Table 'Eulalia' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: kalle76 ($3.85 in chips)
Seat 2: picuici31 ($3.25 in chips)
Seat 3: bloche97 ($23 in chips)
Seat 4: flushisallin ($12.40 in chips)
Seat 5: Fatzie ($10.66 in chips)
Seat 6: fmmax ($10.07 in chips)
picuici31: posts small blind $0.05
bloche97: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bloche97 [J 3 J 3]

flushisallin: raises $0.25 to $0.35
Fatzie: folds
fmmax: calls $0.35
kalle76: raises $0.65 to $1
picuici31: folds
bloche97: calls $0.90 <---------- WP? (std call eller fold?)
flushisallin: calls $0.65
fmmax: calls $0.65
*** FLOP *** [3 8 7]

bloche97: checks
flushisallin: bets $3.88
fmmax: folds
kalle76: calls $2.85 and is all-in
bloche97: raises $14.49 to $18.37
flushisallin: calls $7.52 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($6.97) returned to bloche97
*** TURN *** [3h 8d 7c] [3]

*** RIVER *** [3h 8d 7c 3c] [8]

*** SHOW DOWN ***
bloche97: shows [Jd 3s Jh 3d] (four of a kind, Threes)
flushisallin: shows [9s 8c Td 9d] (three of a kind, Eights)
bloche97 collected $16.38 from side pot
kalle76: shows [9h Kc Tc Th] (two pair, Tens and Eights)
bloche97 collected $12.06 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $29.70 Main pot $12.06. Side pot $16.38. | Rake $1.26
Board [3h 8d 7c 3c 8s]
Seat 1: kalle76 (button) showed [9h Kc Tc Th] and lost with two pair, Tens and Eights
Seat 2: picuici31 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: bloche97 (big blind) showed [Jd 3s Jh 3d] and won ($28.44) with four of a kind, Threes
Seat 4: flushisallin showed [9s 8c Td 9d] and lost with three of a kind, Eights
Seat 5: Fatzie folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: fmmax folded on the Flop


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PokerStars Zoom Hand #181042781474: Omaha Pot Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2018/01/15 19:51:37 CET [2018/01/15 13:51:37 ET]
Table 'Eulalia' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: mascherano97 ($12.85 in chips)
Seat 2: NTT123 ($62.67 in chips)
Seat 3: bloche97 ($30.78 in chips)
Seat 4: IrisSauvaPS ($39.56 in chips)
Seat 5: AKYTOPAKYTO ($8.41 in chips)
Seat 6: pullshot1 ($12.21 in chips)
NTT123: posts small blind $0.05
bloche97: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bloche97 [4 5 6 7]

IrisSauvaPS: folds
AKYTOPAKYTO: raises $0.15 to $0.25
pullshot1: folds
mascherano97: calls $0.25
NTT123: folds
bloche97: calls $0.15
*** FLOP *** [3 J 4]

bloche97: checks
AKYTOPAKYTO: bets $0.50
mascherano97: folds
bloche97: raises $1.77 to $2.27 <---------- WP?
AKYTOPAKYTO: raises $5.31 to $7.58
bloche97: raises $5.31 to $12.89 <---------- WP?
AKYTOPAKYTO: calls $0.58 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($4.73) returned to bloche97
*** FIRST TURN *** [3h Jh 4c] [A]

*** FIRST RIVER *** [3h Jh 4c Ah] [8]

*** SECOND TURN *** [3h Jh 4c] [3]

*** SECOND RIVER *** [3h Jh 4c 3s] [Q]

*** FIRST SHOW DOWN ***
bloche97: shows [4d 5h 6h 7c] (a flush, Ace high)
AKYTOPAKYTO: shows [Ad Kh Jc 2h] (a flush, Ace high - King higher)
AKYTOPAKYTO collected $8.20 from pot
*** SECOND SHOW DOWN ***
bloche97: shows [4d 5h 6h 7c] (two pair, Fours and Threes)
AKYTOPAKYTO: shows [Ad Kh Jc 2h] (two pair, Jacks and Threes)
AKYTOPAKYTO collected $8.19 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $17.12 | Rake $0.73
Hand was run twice
FIRST Board [3h Jh 4c Ah 8h]
SECOND Board [3h Jh 4c 3s Qd]
Seat 1: mascherano97 (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: NTT123 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: bloche97 (big blind) showed [4d 5h 6h 7c] and lost with a flush, Ace high, and lost with two pair, Fours and Threes
Seat 4: IrisSauvaPS folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: AKYTOPAKYTO showed [Ad Kh Jc 2h] and won ($8.20) with a flush, Ace high, and won ($8.19) with two pair, Jacks and Threes
Seat 6: pullshot1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)


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PokerStars Zoom Hand #181043175379: Omaha Pot Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2018/01/15 19:59:31 CET [2018/01/15 13:59:31 ET]
Table 'Eulalia' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: AceA1962 ($7.17 in chips)
Seat 2: kkotae ($25.58 in chips)
Seat 3: AngeL_fH ($10.15 in chips)
Seat 4: just_blaze11 ($4.15 in chips)
Seat 5: bloche97 ($40.75 in chips)
Seat 6: jackson4477 ($23.57 in chips)
kkotae: posts small blind $0.05
AngeL_fH: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bloche97 [9 7 J T]

just_blaze11: folds
bloche97: raises $0.25 to $0.35
jackson4477: calls $0.35
AceA1962: calls $0.35
kkotae: folds
AngeL_fH: folds
*** FLOP *** [9 A Q]

bloche97: checks <---------- WP? (ved ikke lige hvorfor jeg gør det, tror ikke jeg vil raises)
jackson4477: checks
AceA1962: bets $1.15
bloche97: calls $1.15
jackson4477: folds
*** TURN *** [9h Ad Qh] [9]

bloche97: checks <---------- WP?
AceA1962: bets $2.30
bloche97: raises $3.98 to $6.28 <---------- WP?
AceA1962: folds
Uncalled bet ($3.98) returned to bloche97
bloche97 collected $7.76 from pot
bloche97: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $8.10 | Rake $0.34
Board [9h Ad Qh 9c]
Seat 1: AceA1962 (button) folded on the Turn
Seat 2: kkotae (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: AngeL_fH (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: just_blaze11 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: bloche97 collected ($7.76)
Seat 6: jackson4477 folded on the Flop

Redigeret af Bloche d. 16-01-2018 08:37
15-01-2018 21:21 #2| 0

Hånd 1. skal bare i skralderen pre.... Derfra farvekoder pls!

15-01-2018 21:32 #3| 0
OP

Yes - farvekoder kommer i morgen

15-01-2018 21:48 #4| 0

Lav en tråd til hver hånd det er meget nemmere at diskutere så..
få farvekoder på, det betyder meget for over blikket.
Fedt du poster nogle hænder!

Før jeg raiser hånd 1 pre så skal den være dobbelt suited, du kan kalde et 4 bet nemt limperen reraiser dig.
Floppet:
Aktuelt ville jeg bet calle her med den handske du har. Min reraise range er a9xx 55xx mod hans reraise.
Husk at fokuser på din bet Seifzing

Jeg better sansynligvis 40 pct pot på turn og checker river bag hvis jeg ikke forbedre min hånd..( er dog i tvivl om check bag turn ikke er fint nok på plo 10 når vi bliver check raiser flop 3 vejs)

Som spillet checker jeg River på plo 10 😊
Tror problemet i hånden ligger preflop med en shortie til at Acte efter dig er din hånd ret skrald😬

15-01-2018 21:52 #5| 0

1 fold pre 2 gør som dig 3 jeg folder nok til hans 2.88 4 kalder også bare når der ikke ligger farve træk på turn. 5 jeg checker flop når den er 3 vejs. 6 fint nok. 7 giver den også gas på det flop. 8 jeg check flop og tror kun jeg kalder turn

16-01-2018 00:15 #6| 0

hånd 1: imo ikke WP. For det første for bredt at åbne, men måske fint på lave stakes. Dit bet på riven er dårligt imo, skyd langt hellere på turn.


Hånd 2: WP


Hånd 3: WP


Hånd 4: raise ja


Hånd 5: fint, så længe du også har 7,8,9,T DS osv i din range for samme spil pre.


Hånd 6: fold pre, derefter folder vi aldrig.


Hånd 7: ser fint ud


Hånd 8: super mærkeligt, bet løs på flop og kom ind

16-01-2018 08:46 #7| 0
OP

Så kom der farvekoder.


Tak for svar.


1. Tænkte, at jeg forsvarer min knap mod en weak spiller - måske det er for løst. Angående riverbettet, så ville jeg tro, at han valuebetter river 100% af gangene med 55, 59 eller 9q og måske også nogle gange med qxxx. Jeg prøver at finde lidt value ved alle de 9xxx som ikke har 9Axx, men det må være for lille en range. En god spiller raiser måske heller ikke sine dårligste 9xxx holdings på floppet.

3. Tænkte om det måske var for løst at komme ind her, men lader til at det måske er ok.


4. Tænkte, at et raise kun får action af samme straight, og uden nogen re-draws og på et badugi board vil jeg hellere holde hans bluffs inde.


5. Tænkte om et stp ratio på 2/3 var for lille til at komme ind mod 2 modstandere på et board vi ikke connecter med.


6. Tænkte om to par var noget der bare skulle drysses pre i en 3rd bet pot, hvilket det lader til. Er det ligemeget om vi er bb eller knap i den situation? Og hvis vi er OR så defender vi vel?


8. Ved ikke helt hvor godt min hånd spiller mod den range han kommer ai med på floppet? Jeg ser jo ikke ret godt ud mod et nut flush draw fx...

16-01-2018 18:04 #8| 0

Et par hurtige kommentarer


1: fold pre. Fint med call flop og check turn. River bør dog checkes, da han har meget flere kombi'er der slå dig.

2: ok

3: kan diskuteres om du bare skal kalde hans flop raise

4: det er fint bare at kalde turn. River kan du godt raise mindre, for at finde marginale calls frem.

5: fint

6: fint

7: ingen grund til at gå amok på floppet. Hellere kald flop

8: ingen grund til at raise turn

16-01-2018 19:01 #9| 0

hør på mrJBK hvis han hedder det samme på stars eller der omkring har ham som en god reg. på zoom :-)

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