PLO50: 7 hænders linjetjek :-)

#1| 0

Jeg synes selv jeg så småt er ved at få styr på mit PLO-spil (i hvert fald på donk-stakes), men er lidt bekymret for, om jeg bare er helt sick varm pt, eller om jeg reelt er blevet markant bedre. Jeg har derfor valgt at poste en række hænder, som jeg gerne vil have kritik på. Alle hænderne er mere eller mindre standardbeslutninger, så de reads jeg eventuelt måtte have haft, har jeg valgt at udelukke. Anyway here goes:

Hånd 1:

***** Betfair Poker Hand History for Game 369070334 *****
PL $0.25/$0.50 Omaha - Wednesday, June 11, 21:49:26 GMT 2008
Table Loire 08 6-max (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of active players : 6
Seat 1: smilerrrr ( $59.47 )
Seat 2: samu ( $99.61 )
Seat 3: forever64 ( $8.04 )
Seat 4: Hero ( $45.60 )
Seat 5: SweetLisa ( $47.60 )
Seat 6: Duncan303 ( $74.22 )
SweetLisa posts small blind [$0.25]
Duncan303 posts big blind [$0.50]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ 8, 9, A, 5 ]
smilerrrr folds
samu folds
forever64 calls [$0.50]
Hero raises to [$2.25]
SweetLisa calls [$2]
Duncan303 folds
forever64 calls [$1.75]
** Dealing Flop ** [ A, 3, 8 ] pot = ca. 8
SweetLisa checks
forever64 checks
Hero bets [$6]
SweetLisa calls [$6]
forever64 folds
** Dealing Turn ** [ 4 ] pot = ca. 19
SweetLisa checks
Hero bets [$14.43]
SweetLisa calls [$14.43]
** Dealing River ** [ Qd ] pot = ca. 46
SweetLisa checks
Hero? (har ca. 25 tilbage)

Hånd 2:

************ Game 369070334 ends ************
***** Betfair Poker Hand History for Game 369092805 *****
PL $0.25/$0.50 Omaha - Wednesday, June 11, 22:20:18 GMT 2008
Table Loire 08 6-max (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of active players : 4
Seat 1: smilerrrr ( $56.92 )
Seat 2: samu ( $43.56 )
Seat 4: Hero ( $131.96 )
Seat 5: SweetLisa ( $27.10 )
smilerrrr posts small blind [$0.25]
samu posts big blind [$0.50]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ A, J, K, 6 ]
Hero raises to [$1.75]
SweetLisa raises to [$6]
smilerrrr folds
samu folds
Hero calls [$4.25]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5, 6, Q ] pot = 12.75
Hero checks
SweetLisa bets [$12.75]
Hero raises to [$25.50]
SweetLisa calls [$8.35]
SweetLisa goes all-in
Returning uncalled bet [$4.40] to Hero

SPEW?

Hånd 3:

***** Betfair Poker Hand History for Game 369104158 *****
PL $0.25/$0.50 Omaha - Wednesday, June 11, 22:38:08 GMT 2008
Table Loire 08 6-max (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of active players : 6
Seat 1: smilerrrr ( $66.73 )
Seat 2: samu ( $65.47 )
Seat 3: WFuffi ( $81.95 )
Seat 4: Hero ( $161.51 )
Seat 5: karin87 ( $17.71 )
Seat 6: blessed ( $14.65 )
smilerrrr posts small blind [$0.25]
samu posts big blind [$0.50]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ 5, 7, 6, 8 ]
WFuffi calls [$0.50]
Hero raises to [$2.25]
karin87 folds
blessed raises to [$8]
smilerrrr folds
samu calls [$7.50]
WFuffi calls [$7.50]
Hero calls [$5.75]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5, T, 4 ] pot = 32.25
samu bets [$32.25]
WFuffi folds
Hero raises to [$129]
blessed calls [$6.65]
blessed goes all-in
samu calls [$25.22]
samu goes all-in
Returning uncalled bet [$71.53] to Hero

Std?

Hånd 4:

***** Betfair Poker Hand History for Game 369105461 *****
PL $0.25/$0.50 Omaha - Wednesday, June 11, 22:40:12 GMT 2008
Table Loire 08 6-max (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of active players : 5
Seat 1: RentBoi ( $0 )
Seat 2: samu ( $150.09 )
Seat 3: WFuffi ( $69.49 )
Seat 4: Hero ( $95.54 )
Seat 5: karin87 ( $21.76 )
Seat 6: blessed ( $7.35 )
Hero posts small blind [$0.25]
karin87 posts big blind [$0.50]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ 3, Q, 7, 6 ]
blessed calls [$0.50]
samu folds
WFuffi calls [$0.50]
Hero raises to [$2.50]
karin87 calls [$2]
blessed goes all-in
blessed raises to [$7.35]
WFuffi calls [$6.85]
Hero calls [$4.85]
karin87 calls [$4.85]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4, 5, J ] pot = 29.4
Hero bets [$29.40]
karin87 calls [$14.41]
karin87 goes all-in
WFuffi calls [$29.40]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 8 ]
Hero goes all-in
Hero bets [$58.79]
WFuffi calls [$32.74]
WFuffi goes all-in
Returning uncalled bet [$26.05] to Hero

Std. eller er jeg en varm donk?

Hånd 5:

***** Betfair Poker Hand History for Game 369111718 *****
PL $0.25/$0.50 Omaha - Wednesday, June 11, 22:46:59 GMT 2008
Table Loire 08 6-max (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of active players : 5
Seat 1: RentBoi ( $46 )
Seat 2: samu ( $147.09 )
Seat 4: Hero ( $164.34 )
Seat 5: Lootus ( $53.20 )
Seat 6: blessed ( $28.30 )
samu posts small blind [$0.25]
Hero posts big blind [$0.50]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ 7, T, 6, 6 ]
Lootus calls [$0.50]
blessed folds
RentBoi calls [$0.50]
samu folds
Hero checks
** Dealing Flop ** [ T, 6, Q ] pot = 1.75
Hero bets [$1.75]
Lootus calls [$1.75]
RentBoi folds
** Dealing Turn ** [ 3 ] pot = 5.25
Hero bets [$5.25]
Lootus calls [$5.25]
** Dealing River ** [ A ] pot = ca. 15
Hero bets [$11.81]
Lootus goes all-in
Lootus raises to [$45.70]
Hero folds

Skal jeg c/c, c/f, eller b/f?

Hånd 6:

***** Betfair Poker Hand History for Game 369117118 *****
PL $0.25/$0.50 Omaha - Wednesday, June 11, 22:56:08 GMT 2008
Table Loire 08 6-max (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of active players : 5
Seat 1: RentBoi ( $38.50 )
Seat 2: samu ( $143.74 )
Seat 3: RedFish 5 ( $41 )
Seat 4: Hero ( $141.73 )
Seat 6: blessed ( $26.65 )
Hero posts small blind [$0.25]
blessed posts big blind [$0.50]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ 9, J, 7, T ]
RentBoi raises to [$1.75]
samu folds
RedFish 5 folds
Hero raises to [$5.75]
blessed folds
RentBoi calls [$4]
** Dealing Flop ** [ T, 5, 8 ] pot = ca. 12
Hero bets [$9]
RentBoi goes all-in
RentBoi raises to [$32.75]
Hero? (skal calle ca. 23 mere)

Hånd 7:

***** Betfair Poker Hand History for Game 369128448 *****
PL $0.25/$0.50 Omaha - Wednesday, June 11, 23:15:44 GMT 2008
Table Loire 08 6-max (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of active players : 4
Seat 1: infront ( $25 )
Seat 2: Emma E ( $33.55 )
Seat 3: pokerbomb19 ( $52.33 )
Seat 4: Hero ( $122.45 )
Seat 5: powermole ( $43.40 )
Hero posts small blind [$0.25]
powermole posts big blind [$0.50]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ T, T, J, J ]
Emma E folds
pokerbomb19 folds
Hero raises to [$1.50]
powermole calls [$1]
** Dealing Flop ** [ J, 6, Q ] pot = 3
Hero bets [$2.25]
powermole calls [$2.25]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 3 ] pot = 7.5
Hero bets [$7.50]
powermole raises to [$15]
Hero raises to [$52.50]
powermole calls [$24.65]
powermole goes all-in
Returning uncalled bet [$12.85] to Hero

Std?

Takker :-)

12-06-2008 03:29 #2| 0

Som du selv siger er det mere eller mindre std beslutning når du nu befinder dig i hånden -

1. valuebet

2. fold preflop. som spillet fold flop

3. standard fint

4. fold preflop - som spillet nice hit-

5. c/f

6. FOLD

7. std

12-06-2008 12:38 #3| 0

7 hænder er mange at kommentere på, så ved ikke lige hvor grundigt det bliver:

1:
Checker den blot på river, da jeg har svært ved at se noget du slår skaal betale dig af. Desuden synes jeg det er lidt løst at åbne pre med den hånd, men kan godt forsvares. BTW hvorfor better du ikke pot på turn?

2:
Ren og skær spew i min bog hele vejen. Folder til hans 3 bet medmindre der er noget history eller ekstraordinær dynamik. PLO50 er der stort set kun re-raises med gode AA/KK hænder. At du så kommer over toppen på floppet er endnu mere spew i min bog, da han ikke lægger AA mod dig. Hvis du rammer 2 par har han stadig odds til at kalde med 2 esser og 2 side kort.

3:
Standard.. Du er godt inde mod alle hænder

4:
Varm donk... ;) I min bog ryger den hånd i mucken preflop.. postflop std.

5:
Jeg check caller på river, men synes også det er fint spillet sådan her, du bliver dog nødt til at overveje hvad du gør hvis han rykker på dig på river. Jeg tror ender op med et call, da det ikke giver mening at vente helt til river på det board hvis han har et højere set. Har også svært ved at sætte ham på KJ, men tror aldrig du er godt inde der så fold.

6:
Folder uden at tøve.. Synes heller ikke din hånd er god nok til at reraise med preflop.

7:
Rimelig standard, men hvorfor ikke et pot bet på floppet?

12-06-2008 13:45 #4| 0

fint med nogle standardsituationer, sikkert viser hvor forskellig det er.

1: Checker (selvom river er blank)
2: Spew, Villain kan ikke folde her, Villain har raised pre hvordan har villain ikke overpar eller semi wrap, jeg folder sgu nok pre til raise
3: fino
4: fint at afveksle med SB junk raise, men det er hårdt at bette ind i str8 draw i multiway pot når der er flush draw.
1/3 som spillet pre
2/3 fold pre
check call, check raise flop
5:river Check call, du er ude mod draw(KJ) eller flush eller bluff, så der er ingen value.
6:Fold, ellers fint spillet
7:standard, hvis idioten calle flop med QQ med det board klapper vi til banken.

13-06-2008 14:34 #5| 0

Tillader mig lige at bumpe den, da der trods alt ser ud til at være lidt uenighed.

Takker for svar so far, det er en stor hjælp!

13-06-2008 23:08 #6| 0

1. valuebet

2. fold

3. standard

4. standard

5. check call, dog er det rart at vide om villain er istand til at bluffe

6. fold

7. standard

14-06-2008 00:18 #7| 0

Synes det er lækkert med de mange omaha tråde, men synes det kunne være super lækkert hvis folk gad skrive ldt mere end bare; Check, Raise, valuebet osv..
Kunne være rart at høre nogle tanker bag tingene...

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